Nvidia's RTX 5080 is a $1,000 GPU that feels more like an RTX 4080 Ti Super than a true next-gen upgrade. With only minor spec bumps and a massive gap from the 5090, is it worth it? Let's dive in.
Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Review
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yRaz
Posts: 7,437 +11,971
Considering many games these days need UPSCALING to be playable at 1080p, I doubt we're going to see 6k and 8k anytime soon.
So if the 5080 can't match 4090 performance surely the 5070 will! Nvidia would never lie and try to scam consumers!
n3o127
Posts: 105 +68
Unless the RX 9070 XT ends up faster than RX 7900 XTX, AMD should price 7900 XTX aggressively and continue to sell it as it holds its own well vs RTX 5080 other than Ray Tracing (of course), and perhaps with some more software love on the XTX AMD could squeeze a bit more out Rays performance with the XTX. If though the RX 9070 XT actually is faster than (bit of AMD surprise, some leaks if true have shown the 9070 XT to be able to top 7900 XTX) 7900 XTX, the 9070 XT is in an interesting position with its better Ray Tracing performance, it could be a chance to get roughly RTX 5080 performance card for price of RTX 5070.
Ohnooze
Posts: 723 +1,395
I don't even know what to think of this new generation of cards. I have no problem with frame gen or upscaling but damn....this is very underwhelming.
Inthenstus
Posts: 240 +328
The Super line-up on exists to continue their current memory supply usage after their server grade chips dip in sales between generations. NVIDIA is smart, but man do I hate this company.
This review result is so disappointing, I had planned to build a new PC going from 2070 Super to 5080, but now I really am reconsidering. I know it'll be a big leap from where I'm currently from, but the concept behind my new build is to last 7-10 years (ideally 10!), I'm not the sort of person who regularly has disposable income for this....
takaozo
Posts: 1,054 +1,600
This...
Every month I auto deposit $30 into a GIF that grows at a reasonable 2-4% per year... usually in 8 years I have enough to design a new high end rig that I design based on my needs/interests... I usually start planning the build 4-6 months before purchase.
If AMD sold a card that could carry me 8 years... I would buy it.
Vulcanproject
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MarcusNumb
Posts: 233 +409
Another chance for AMD, and I mean big chance. Hopefully with this delay, they can make the price right to earn more market shares. I'm just tired of NVIDIA bs and just want their competitors to do well so that customers like us can really have a good value product.
I'm not one to single out the reviewer score, but I am honestly surprised that it even made it to 70. It lands so poorly in generational uplift that to me as a prospective buyer still sitting on a 6th gen intel processor and a Nvidia 10-series card, that fact sits worse than Nvidia asking $1200 for the 4080 on release. It is the worst generational uplift since the 20 series (though it was not a fair fight since it was against the 1080 Ti), but at least the 2080 generally matched blow for blow the highest end the 10 series non-titan (but basically was) card had to offer. The 3080 was a somewhere around 20% better than the 2080 Ti, the 4080 could push 30%+ over the 3090.
Some of that uplift of framerate (whenever there actually was one) with the 5080 could be met by the 4080 Super if you were so inclined to overclock it, which granted would further increase the power draw disparity but still would mean there was no meaningful performance differentiation between the two... though the 5080 FE uses the same cooler as the 5090 FE so huzzah for SFF builders.
Even joking that the 5080 is effectively a 4080 Ti Super puts it on a bad footing since it would imply that this card and the performance it brings could have/should have belonged in the previous generation of cards and not in its own. The status quo of Nvidia's new second card-of-the-line meeting and exceeding the previous generation's flagship is broken as the 5080 looks back and sees that it is keeping a few paces ahead of the 4080 super and seems content in that fact, but not looking ahead as the 4090 healthily holds its own lead against it.
Some of that uplift of framerate (whenever there actually was one) with the 5080 could be met by the 4080 Super if you were so inclined to overclock it, which granted would further increase the power draw disparity but still would mean there was no meaningful performance differentiation between the two... though the 5080 FE uses the same cooler as the 5090 FE so huzzah for SFF builders.
Even joking that the 5080 is effectively a 4080 Ti Super puts it on a bad footing since it would imply that this card and the performance it brings could have/should have belonged in the previous generation of cards and not in its own. The status quo of Nvidia's new second card-of-the-line meeting and exceeding the previous generation's flagship is broken as the 5080 looks back and sees that it is keeping a few paces ahead of the 4080 super and seems content in that fact, but not looking ahead as the 4090 healthily holds its own lead against it.
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LetTheWookieWin
Posts: 196 +394
Other than the 9800X3D, there has been no shortage of disappointing PC hardware launches in the last 6 months. This is yet another one.
The biggest upgrade seems to be power consumption. It’s almost like these manufacturers are prioritizing efficiency over gaming performance for some odd reason (AI and datacenter) (/sarcasm).
The biggest upgrade seems to be power consumption. It’s almost like these manufacturers are prioritizing efficiency over gaming performance for some odd reason (AI and datacenter) (/sarcasm).
If? Historically AMD card age better (FineWine) and longer legacy support via driver updates.
People... am I high on copium if I hope for better results for the laptop versions?
Burty117
Posts: 5,479 +4,291
So its just a 4080 SuperDuper? Got it.
The move to GDDR7 feels kinda pointless, it's barely done anything, I guess memory bandwidth wasn't the issue.
The move to GDDR7 feels kinda pointless, it's barely done anything, I guess memory bandwidth wasn't the issue.
Tran Bronstein
Posts: 46 +74
Like pretty much everyone here, I've already seen all the YouTube tech reviewers videos in full and I'm genuinely gobsmacked at this release. People heavily criticized the RTX 2080's relatively small 20% uplift over the previous GTX 1080. Yet I did that upgrade myself and felt it was a relatively good deal as I could definitely see about a 15-20 fps uplift in my 4K games which did make a difference and allowed me to gift the 1080 to my sister's family and build them a good quality gaming PC (which they still use today).
But this.... this is abominable. There is absolutely no reason for a current RTX 4080 and especially not an RTX 4080 Super owner to even glance at an RTX 5080. Even just increasing the VRAM from 16GB to 24 GB which they should've done would've made this worth it. Makes the small RTX 5090 uplift from the RTX 4090 and the increased VRAM seem worth it and I've already posted here that RTX 4090 users honestly should just keep their money in their wallets.
Really don't know what NVIDIA is thinking with this generation. The RTX 5070 and 5060 cards are just going to be trashed by reviewers universally based on what we've seen so far.
But this.... this is abominable. There is absolutely no reason for a current RTX 4080 and especially not an RTX 4080 Super owner to even glance at an RTX 5080. Even just increasing the VRAM from 16GB to 24 GB which they should've done would've made this worth it. Makes the small RTX 5090 uplift from the RTX 4090 and the increased VRAM seem worth it and I've already posted here that RTX 4090 users honestly should just keep their money in their wallets.
Really don't know what NVIDIA is thinking with this generation. The RTX 5070 and 5060 cards are just going to be trashed by reviewers universally based on what we've seen so far.
BogdanR
Posts: 170 +148
To say Nvidia’s 5000 series is a disappointment would be a gross understatement.
The remaining big question is how AMD will position their cards in terms of price. We can assume the new 9070 series will do most likely quite alright, performance wise, but I’m not quite as confident we won’t see yet another 7000 series type pricing.
I hold absolutely no hope here. Best to keep all surprises on the positive side, even though AMD has a really low bar to clear here.
The remaining big question is how AMD will position their cards in terms of price. We can assume the new 9070 series will do most likely quite alright, performance wise, but I’m not quite as confident we won’t see yet another 7000 series type pricing.
I hold absolutely no hope here. Best to keep all surprises on the positive side, even though AMD has a really low bar to clear here.
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So you get more for your money than you did before. Theres no competition to buy instead so Nvidia didnt have to release anything. They could have just continued to sell us RTX 4000 parts and we would have still purchased them as we wouldn't have a choice.
I find it hard to be mad at Nvidia for this. But I am disappointed in NVidia's competitors. People are paying through their noses to get a GPU right now. Don't these other companies want some of that money?
I find it hard to be mad at Nvidia for this. But I am disappointed in NVidia's competitors. People are paying through their noses to get a GPU right now. Don't these other companies want some of that money?
Nvidia cards get longer driver support than Radeon cards, often much longer if the Radeon card doesn't sell very well. And the fine wine thing was more a hallmark of the GCN architecture which was complex and took longer to reach maturity than its competition meaning engineers could get bigger gains out of it later in its life. It was a bad thing really as that optimization should have been there on day one of the products launch. You shouldn't be buying a part based on the performance you hope it will get.
These results make me wonder if the 40 series is technically a superior GPU. You don't really see any gains until 4K and that's likely due to much better memory bandwidth for the 50 series, if the 40 series would have had similar bandwidth would there be any material gain at all?
The good news for me is that my 4080 will still be a top tier card for a bit longer. Yes, I'm one of those rare people that own one, but I got it for $900 long before the 4080 S arrived, so I don't feel too bad about it.
So the 5070 Ti is basically just going to be the 4070 Ti Super in terms of performance. It might be a little better at 4K due to GDDR7, but other than that it's basically going to be the same GPU. The 5070 Ti will have a few more cuda cores, but it's also clocked slower! Technically the 4070 Ti Super is a little faster from a TFlops standpoint.
The good news for me is that my 4080 will still be a top tier card for a bit longer. Yes, I'm one of those rare people that own one, but I got it for $900 long before the 4080 S arrived, so I don't feel too bad about it.
So the 5070 Ti is basically just going to be the 4070 Ti Super in terms of performance. It might be a little better at 4K due to GDDR7, but other than that it's basically going to be the same GPU. The 5070 Ti will have a few more cuda cores, but it's also clocked slower! Technically the 4070 Ti Super is a little faster from a TFlops standpoint.
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I'll probably hold onto my RTX 4070 Ti Super OC for a while. I don't game as much as I used to, and this just isn't that impressive. If the prices drop a little I'll probably bite though.
I was considering the 5070, but at this rate, I think I'll wait for the RX 9070 reviews. I’m not interested in DLSS or RT, just raw rasterization performance.
airbornex
Posts: 159 +171
Nvidia seems to be stuck in a loop of releasing overpriced GPUs, realizing no one wants them, then course-correcting with a slightly better version months later. If the 5080 doesn’t offer a significant upgrade over the 4080 Super, why should gamers rush to buy it? At this point, waiting for a price drop or the next-gen refresh feels like the smarter move.
Cocojambo13
Posts: 45 +63
If anyone thinks, FOR A SECOND... that THEY ARE GONNA BUY a 1000 dollars gpu is deeply, deeply disturbed and completely gullible.
Ther are already reports showing the cheapest is 13-- to 1900 dollars.
GOOD LUCK nvidia fanboys.
Ther are already reports showing the cheapest is 13-- to 1900 dollars.
GOOD LUCK nvidia fanboys.
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